Friday, August 28, 2009

Religious piety and the girls trapped in your backyard.

Apparently nonbelievers are damnable shames and everybody is trying to enlighten us when it comes to God. Here's a prime example from Voices Revealed:

THIS WITNESS IS TO GAIN THE ATTENTION OF UNBELIEVERS WORLD WIDE, INCLUDING SCIENTIST, PHYSICIST AND EDUCATORS. WHY? TO BEGIN A MAJOR WAKE UP CALL THAT ALLOWS THE REST OF THE WORLD TO TURN AND KNOW THAT HE EXISTS AND IS DESIRING THAT EVERYONE COME TO KNOW HIM.

THE CREATOR'S WORK IS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND BELONGS TO HIM ALONE, TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, AND NOT FOR ME, OR ANY ONE PERSON TO ACT AS THOUGH WE SPEAK FOR HIM.


But, Tatarize, you say, why care? I mean this is the typical fundy capped nonsense we see every where. See, but not everybody has had a kidnapped 11 year old living in the backyard for near two decades.

One of the interesting things is that the blog he had, isn't shut down so there's a bunch of comments from people who scampered over there. I don't know how anybody tends to think he isn't going to ask Jesus for forgiveness and receive it. Where is the infinite mercy of their supposed God when it comes to child pedophiles who kidnap girls and have children with them over the course of several decades.

Checking various other bits, if you check his name and look at his other blank blogs, we run into one that has a side panel he actually filled out. That surprise only contains some cut and pasted Bible quotes. However he did highlight the section of 2 Cor. 12 "I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses." -- He also doesn't seem very internet savvy. He left a bunch of blank blogs and on the blog he did occasionally use he posted a lot of personal information. Doesn't he know, there are total creeps on the internet?

5 comments:

Mike Messerli said...

But, Tatarize, I ask...in spite of his claims of faith, or "fundyism" as you might call it, I would maintain that a horrible human being like this is horrible regardless of his faith claims. There are pathetic examples of the human being in every faith, but it doesn't mean his faith was real. I think his life demonstrates it wasn't. The whole story is very sad for this poor girl. I feel very bad for her and what she has suffered. It's all a sad story.

Tatarize said...

His life demonstrates that it wasn't? How can you say that if religion gives morality? Rather than using ones faith to determine what is morality, you are using your morality to determine what is faith.

Mike Messerli said...

Tatarize, I'm sorry, I haven't stopped by in a bit. I don't understand your partial questions, sorry, I am not saying what you claim- "you are using your morality to determine what is faith." I'm not clear on your point. I was simply agreeing with your post regarding a man and his life, not sure where my comment draws such comments.

Tatarize said...

You suppose he wasn't a Christian because he wasn't moral. You are using the morality of his actions to determine whether or not he accepted his faith. It's like saying every dentist is taller than 5 feet tall. Then when you find one shorter than 5 feet tall, you claim that their height clearly proves they aren't a real dentist.

It isn't that religion gives one morality. It doesn't. However to preserve a perfect overlap between the religious and the moral, you are simply excluding immoral people from religion. That's not using your religious beliefs to determine what is moral actions. Rather you are using your moral sense to determine who is religious.

Mike Messerli said...

Again, sorry for my lapse in stopping by. Not at all to your last point...my point is this: I honestly believe that "if" this Christian faith is true, and I believe it is, it should change the life of the one who believes it. If his life is not different because of what he says he believe I would question whether he was simply using religion as a cover for his actions or a way to deceive others. I know, from years in business, if someone is in your face with is religion then grap your wallet....you're in for a fleecing. Anyway, my point was simply that by his actions I believe this man demonstrated that this faith he claimed was not real to him. His life reflects, to me, that this was a mask he wore to cover his actions. Now, I know you would see it differently, but those are my brief thoughts. It would be great to sit down with a cold beer and discuss this further...