Suit filed against Prop 8.

Some think it's a bit too fast but I'm of the opinion that it's absolutely been enough time. The idea that if you act too soon then you can't have liberty has always been a mistake. Gradualism has always been a profound mistake. I am reminded of William LLoyd Garrison's words in the first issue of the Liberator:

"On this subject, I do not wish to think, or to speak, or write, with moderation. No! no! Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen; – but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest – I will not equivocate – I will not excuse – I will not retreat a single inch – AND I WILL BE HEARD. The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal, and to hasten the resurrection of the dead."

Or those of Martin Luthor King,

This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy.

Most of all I'm sick of having my state vote down gay marriage when we seemed so nicely liberal (Ohio has gay marriage and we don't!). It was the 'No On 8' people who sucked so bad that it lost. It could have been kept down if they had better planning and a better campaign. So, after than major screw-up, I don't care what they say. The gays are no longer in charge of the gay agenda as far as I'm concerned.

So I don't give a rip about their silly state by state campaign. I say we start suing everything we can until people have equal rights.

Large Protests Against Prop 8

I hope they travel back in time because otherwise they are pointless and an example of why prop 8 passed.

Honestly, giant No protests on the news nightly for the last couple weeks before the election would have had considerable sway back when sway was possible.

The No camp was all reaction. Yes sent a bunch of cards around saying Barack Obama doesn't support gay marriage and only then did the No people point out that Barack Obama supports voting no. For a proposition that had 70%+ African American support they should have taken the president elects support to the bank early and often.

I'm glad that people are passionate, they should have done this before.

Farm animals > Gays

Prop 8
Yes
5,344,012
52%
No
4,854,132
48%

With 99% of the vote in. Prop 2 which says farm animals need to be treated with a bit more care passed with flying colors. So farm animals get more rights and gays get less.

Okay back to only caring about myself. It'll be a few months or perhaps years before this crap is finally overturned. I'm pretty sure it'll need to be decided at the 9th circuit level in order to strike down the constitutional amendment. Even if your case is a solid winner it takes a while to get up to that level.

California Gives Obama The Win... then goes gay bashing.

Damn it. I know it's not counted yet and still in processing but it looks like 8 is going to pass.

Yes

4,488,600
52%

No

4,173,033
48%

With 82% in.

Fricking California.

Prop H8 is close, but there's bigger fish to fry.

Anybody notice that the trend lines on the proposition looks like a Jesus fish?

Freaky.

California Propositions

Yes on 1a, 2, 3, 5, 12.
These are official SSnot endorsements.

1A High Speed Rail -- Trains might actually be kind of nice.

2 Farm Animal Conditions -- The standard claims of animal rights and from groups like PETA tend to try to exploit the desire for animal welfare with animal rights. While the former is a position everybody agrees with the latter is fairly silly. That said, this prop supports the former and suggests that farm animals shouldn't be forced into tiny boxes and never get to move around until they are killed for food.

3 Children's Hospital Bonds -- This sounds like something you'd call a proposition that creates death camps and forces people into slavery. Who would vote against Children's Hospitals? According to latest polling very few and according to the letter of the proposition it does what it says it does.

4 Parental Notification -- If a kid is under 18 and wants an abortion they gotta tell their parents. This is about as extreme as the pro-life people could get a bill in the state. The latest PPIC finally has it polling as a fail.

5 Drug Rehab Programs -- We love our drugs and our forced drug rehab rather than prisons.

6 Anti-Gang -- No, LOVE THE PRISONS INSTEAD!

7 Renewable Power Standard - Seems to force up the amount of renewable energy requrements at different levels but groups like the Sierra Club and the Union of Concerned Scientists because they say it's really poorly written.

8 Anti-Marriage -- Removes the constitutional rights of certain individuals to enter into a private contract because we hate them. Thankfully the PPIC study finally has this polling at a loss. The No on 8 crew sucked. They were caught completely offguard by a large influx of Mormon money pushing for a yes vote. "Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment that would end same-sex marriage in California, is losing among likely voters, 52 percent to 44 percent" -- After the silly laws against same sex marriage were overturned and the polling looked good then no so good and now good again.

9 Victim's Rights -- REALLY! LOVE YOURSELF SOME PRISONS!

10 Pickens Natural Gas -- Eh, no. Pickens doesn't seem like a bad guy from the commercials but screw giving him massive amounts of money. Sierra Club again against. I like my fighters for an energy secure future far from fossil fuels to not advocate switching to fossil fuels, especially one he has a massive stake in.

11 Redistricting -- Fair redistricting is a massive loss for the Democrats. If the dems can't draw the lines then a number of seats will be lost. I have nothing in principle against redistricting or against fair redistricting... but unless every state does it it's going to be a strong disadvantage to one party over another. Take the proportional delegate amendments that come up in California here and there, those serve only to make the Republicans win the presidency if they passed. BTW the PPIC polling says Obama is up by 23 points in California.

12 Veterans Bonds -- Much like the childrens hospital it's hard to vote against helping veterans.